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i'll play a little clip minority leader in the house of representatives nancy pelosi. >> for them to slap the face of our veterans, of people with disabilities, of families with children with disabilities, that was one of the saddest days. anyone who was a party to that, well, i wish them well wherever they are going and hope that we can have more of our values represented there. >> she was referring to your may vote, your vote against this international treaty to help people with disabilities all over the world. there are a bunch of republicans who voted against it even though john mccain and bob dole and others came and pleaded with you to vote for this treaty. >> wolf, the issues -- the rights and privileges, opportunities for the disabled are very important. they're too important to turn over -- >> why were you against this treaty? >> if it's important, why turn it over to united nations? >> senator kerry says they're not turning it over. the united nations is just the body that's going to help other countries do what we are doing here in united states. >> wolf, if that were true
i'll play a little clip minority leader in the house of representatives nancy pelosi. >> for them to slap the face of our veterans, of people with disabilities, of families with children with disabilities, that was one of the saddest days. anyone who was a party to that, well, i wish them well wherever they are going and hope that we can have more of our values represented there. >> she was referring to your may vote, your vote against this international treaty to help people with...
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. >> so let me ask you though, today nancy pelosi filed a petition to try to force a house vote later this month on extending the bush tax cuts for families that make under $250,000 a year. as you just said, you stand by your support of that position. but you've said you wouldn't support the petition by nancy pelosi. >> well, i'd like to ask leader pelosi how many discharged petitions she supported when she was speaker. i mean, the reality -- that's a little game. it's not going to be helpful. it's not going to get anything done. and no, i would never sign a discharge petition against my own speaker or my own conference. the way you do things is to negotiate. and frankly, the negotiation is going to largely involve the president of the united states and the speaker of the house of representatives. with all due respect to the other players, they're honestly less central to this. and if they can come to a deal, then i think we can avoid the fiscal cliff. >> and do you think that -- somebody put this idea out here. and this idea is really vile. i'll use the right word. i think you'll agr
. >> so let me ask you though, today nancy pelosi filed a petition to try to force a house vote later this month on extending the bush tax cuts for families that make under $250,000 a year. as you just said, you stand by your support of that position. but you've said you wouldn't support the petition by nancy pelosi. >> well, i'd like to ask leader pelosi how many discharged petitions she supported when she was speaker. i mean, the reality -- that's a little game. it's not going to...
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and today house minority nancy pelosi had this to say. >> the president has been very specific, do you not agree? [ inaudible question ] $1.6 trillion. at some point, you are cutting the seed corn of our future. the president wants investments in infrastructurinfrastructure, investments. you're not going to reduce the deficit by only cutting your way to it because you will cut the prospects for job creation which produce revenue. >> so while people in washington go back and forth over the fine print, what does it mean for you on january 1st? your personal economy of one as we like for say. i asked you to tweet me some of your questions and you've been fabulous at doing that. one of the best in the business, ali velshi, is kind enough to grace us with your presence. >> those are great questions. great to know what people want to know. >> there were so many. let me get some of the highlights. lisa asks how does this affect the extension of unemployment benefits which expire december 31. >> this is awful. this is the worst part about it. unemployment benefits are traditionally 26 weeks pr
and today house minority nancy pelosi had this to say. >> the president has been very specific, do you not agree? [ inaudible question ] $1.6 trillion. at some point, you are cutting the seed corn of our future. the president wants investments in infrastructurinfrastructure, investments. you're not going to reduce the deficit by only cutting your way to it because you will cut the prospects for job creation which produce revenue. >> so while people in washington go back and forth...
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more evidence boehner's democratic counterpart house minority leader nancy pelosi also seems to be softening her language as we head into the weekend. listen. >> what we want to do is protect the middle class. so it's not about the rate. it's about the money. >> so is 37 the magic number in this fiscal cliff debate? "outfront," two men who know taxes very well. douglas holtz-ekin, president of the american action forum and robert reich from the university of california and berkeley and former secretary under bill clinton. douglas, does this sound like code for a deal in the works? >> it certainly is good news that they aren't taking things off the table. i would be premature if i was celebrating a deal. there's a long way to go. it's important that they reach an agreement. the fiscal cliff is a very real danger to the united states economy. it's a recipe for a recession. and i certainly would not like to see the rhetoric that we saw from the treasury secretary tim geithner who said he's prepared to go over the fiscal cliff. that is not a good way to talk about what's going on right now. >> m
more evidence boehner's democratic counterpart house minority leader nancy pelosi also seems to be softening her language as we head into the weekend. listen. >> what we want to do is protect the middle class. so it's not about the rate. it's about the money. >> so is 37 the magic number in this fiscal cliff debate? "outfront," two men who know taxes very well. douglas holtz-ekin, president of the american action forum and robert reich from the university of california and...
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pelosi spoke a short time ago, deep sigh. not there yet. take a listen. >> republicans put out a let they're had more signatures than ideas. it had like one number. that's not -- let's get real. let's really get real about this if we are going to have a solution. >> here we are at the 11th hour and the president still is not serious about dealing with this issue right here. it's this issue. spending. we want to talk about polling. most americans agree that spending is a much bigger problem than raising taxes. we want to deal with this in a responsible way. >> as you just heard, house speaker said the white house is not serious about cutting spending, but the white house said it could be over if republicans agreed to raise taxes on the top 2%. guess what. 76% of adults surveyed agree with the president on this one. this is according to the polls as the "wall street journal" nbc poll. let's go to washington to the senior congressional correspondent. dana, you talked to the two men who spent their careers in congress making deal
pelosi spoke a short time ago, deep sigh. not there yet. take a listen. >> republicans put out a let they're had more signatures than ideas. it had like one number. that's not -- let's get real. let's really get real about this if we are going to have a solution. >> here we are at the 11th hour and the president still is not serious about dealing with this issue right here. it's this issue. spending. we want to talk about polling. most americans agree that spending is a much bigger...
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>> reporter: a very interesting moment when the former democratic house speaker nancy pelosi had blunt advice for the current republican house speaker in terms of learning how to get his caucus together to find a deal that can actually pass congress and that the president will sign and those blunt words were, quote, figure it out. sources of both parties say a tuesday evening phone call between the president and speaker boehner did not go well. >> well, the president and i had a deliberate call yesterday and we spoke honestly and openly about the differences that we face. >> cnn has learned at least part of the reason why. tuesday's gop counteroffer included a renewed explicit call for a, quote, permanent extension of bush era tack cuts for the top 2% of americans. according to a democratic source familiar with the language. the democratic source argued that proposing to permanently extend tax cuts for the wealthy that the president calls a nonstarter shows that republicans are either, quote, unwilling or unable to make an offer they can pass and the president will sign. >> those magic
>> reporter: a very interesting moment when the former democratic house speaker nancy pelosi had blunt advice for the current republican house speaker in terms of learning how to get his caucus together to find a deal that can actually pass congress and that the president will sign and those blunt words were, quote, figure it out. sources of both parties say a tuesday evening phone call between the president and speaker boehner did not go well. >> well, the president and i had a...
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today boehner and nancy pelosi back to finger pointing. >> a lot of people know the president and i met on sunday. it was a nice meeting, cordial. but we're still waiting for the white house to identify what spending cuts the president is willing to make as part of the balanced approach that he promised the american people. you know, where are the president's spending cuts? the longer the white house walks the process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> what i would do to respond to what the speaker has said, though, is to set the record straight. the fact is that the president has and democrats agree with him, agreed to over $1.5 trillion, $1.6 trillion in cuts and the budget control act and other acts of congress in this -- in this particular congress. $1.6 trillion in cuts. where are the cuts? they're in bills that you, mr. speaker, have voted for. >> so it all comes down to tax revenues and spending cuts. tom foreman gives us a virtual view of what is involved in negotiations. watch. >> what you're looking at in the room is everything the federal government spends m
today boehner and nancy pelosi back to finger pointing. >> a lot of people know the president and i met on sunday. it was a nice meeting, cordial. but we're still waiting for the white house to identify what spending cuts the president is willing to make as part of the balanced approach that he promised the american people. you know, where are the president's spending cuts? the longer the white house walks the process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> what i would...
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not sure if you caught this, but house democratic leader nancy pelosi launched this effort to force a vote, force a vote on extending the middle class tax cut while letting taxes go up first of the year for the wealthiest 2% of americans. keep in mind, republicans own the house majority, so they control which bills, of course, come to vote. and they have not allowed a vote on the tax cuts. so pelosi has begun to circulate this petition and it would force a vote on the measure. they have to get the signatures just to get the vote to happen. if all house democrats sign the petition, she still needs just about two dozen republicans to come on board as well, and that could prove to be a pretty tough task. joining me now from washington, congressman steve israel, democrat of new york. congressman, nice to see you back here on the show. >> thanks, brooke. >> i understand you, yourself, have been reaching out to some of the house republicans on this. have you spoken to any of them? >> i have. and you're right, it is tough for a republican to break with his or her party and sign this petition
not sure if you caught this, but house democratic leader nancy pelosi launched this effort to force a vote, force a vote on extending the middle class tax cut while letting taxes go up first of the year for the wealthiest 2% of americans. keep in mind, republicans own the house majority, so they control which bills, of course, come to vote. and they have not allowed a vote on the tax cuts. so pelosi has begun to circulate this petition and it would force a vote on the measure. they have to get...
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the house leader nancy pelosi asked to get them to put extending tax cuts for the middle class on the floor. do you have enough votes? guest: we don't have enough votes to get the discharge petition. discharge petitions often are not successful. the republicans are in a box. now they appear to be defending tax cuts for the rich even at the expense of tax cuts for 98% of americans. it's not a good place to be. but the backup position as a lot of danger in it. if we go back to the debt ceiling fight where we are willing to use that as an economic weapon of mass destruction to get our way and that is what the speaker is talking about the, using the debt ceiling divorce is you want a president with respect to the budget, there are enormous collateral damage consequences to using that tool. we would default. america has never defaulted. we came within a whisper of doing that in august and it led to the current credit downgrade for us in history. the debt ceiling is something republicans and democrats have grandstanded about. last august we went into new territory where it was a hardball ta
the house leader nancy pelosi asked to get them to put extending tax cuts for the middle class on the floor. do you have enough votes? guest: we don't have enough votes to get the discharge petition. discharge petitions often are not successful. the republicans are in a box. now they appear to be defending tax cuts for the rich even at the expense of tax cuts for 98% of americans. it's not a good place to be. but the backup position as a lot of danger in it. if we go back to the debt ceiling...
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pelosi was speaker. this was an unserious proposal. and i can understand why my good friend, the majority leader, would rather not vote on it, because i can't imagine that it would get many, if any, votes in the senate here as well. having made that point, with regard to pntr for russia, when the two parties first sat down to discuss the so-called fiscal cliff, it was widely assumed among republicans that president obama and democrats actually wanted to avoid it. that was the premise that any possible agreement had shown. that was the common goal, or so we thought. over the past couple of weeks it's become increasingly clear to many of us that we were simply wrong about that. incredibly, many top democrats, including the president, seemed perfectly happy -- perfectly happy -- to go off the cliff. that's why the president has been more interested in campaign rallies than actually negotiating a deal. and it explains why the president is now stubbornly insisting on raising tax rates when he himself said jus
pelosi was speaker. this was an unserious proposal. and i can understand why my good friend, the majority leader, would rather not vote on it, because i can't imagine that it would get many, if any, votes in the senate here as well. having made that point, with regard to pntr for russia, when the two parties first sat down to discuss the so-called fiscal cliff, it was widely assumed among republicans that president obama and democrats actually wanted to avoid it. that was the premise that any...
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obviously nancy pelosi has said she doesn't like the idea. as you just said we won. why do we need to trade that this time? >> i don't think there is going to be any trade. there is concern about medicare's long-term fiscal health because people are living longer. and the actuarial tables are a little bit out of whack on this so it's something i think you can evaluate if it is done in a fair way, but we already agreed to $1.2 trillion of spending cuts that are now a law in july of 2011. and there was no revenue in that deal. and i think to get distracted by the spending side we're taking the bait if we do that. >> stephanie: uh-huh. representative you are saying -- first of all is there going to be a vote on the 98% of us getting a tax cut, is there going to be a vote on that? >> sure. i think what will happen is that in some form the present tax rates will stay in effect on a long-term basis. now what procedural mechanism these guys eventually come up with i don't know but that's what the result is going to be. >> stephanie: all right. well it's all good news. thank
obviously nancy pelosi has said she doesn't like the idea. as you just said we won. why do we need to trade that this time? >> i don't think there is going to be any trade. there is concern about medicare's long-term fiscal health because people are living longer. and the actuarial tables are a little bit out of whack on this so it's something i think you can evaluate if it is done in a fair way, but we already agreed to $1.2 trillion of spending cuts that are now a law in july of 2011....
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representative nancy pelosi. >> what they offered in return was an empty letter. lacking in specifics. >> stephanie: all right. boehner, this was after the meeting on friday. at the white house. >> this isn't a progress report because there is no progress to report. >> it is clever. >> stephanie: jim's impression is slightly more drunk than boehner sounds. >> can we hear that again? >> stephanie: yes. >> this isn't a progress report because there's no progress to report. >> there's no progress to report. ha ha! >> stephanie: he's drifting into tom delayish territory. >> wow! >> conservatives saw the savagery of 9-11 and the effects in the tax -- prepared for war. liberals saw this -- savagery of 9-11 of the tax and wanted to prepare indictments. and offer therapeutic understanding for our attackers. that's not slander. that's the truth. >> that is a totally drunk uncle. oh god. >> kids these days. >> stephanie: i like the ones where he takes four tries at the same word. do not help me! i've got this. >> we haven't played that in a long time. >> stephanie: i change
representative nancy pelosi. >> what they offered in return was an empty letter. lacking in specifics. >> stephanie: all right. boehner, this was after the meeting on friday. at the white house. >> this isn't a progress report because there is no progress to report. >> it is clever. >> stephanie: jim's impression is slightly more drunk than boehner sounds. >> can we hear that again? >> stephanie: yes. >> this isn't a progress report because...
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. >> stephanie: discharge petition, you heard nancy pelosi talking about this. to vote on the middle class tax cuts in the house. he joins us now. good morning representative. >> good morning. thank you for having me. >> stephanie: was it yesterday you filed it? >> we filed it at noon yesterday. we've got over 150 folks signed on. >> stephanie: that's awesome. so just talk to us about what you think is going to happen and on what timeframe. >> well what it is -- what we're saying is yes, there's a lot of big issues to take care of. we all agree we're not going to let tax rates increase on those families making less than $250,000 which is, of course, everybody gets that break on their first $250,000 and 98% of people don't make that much. we said let's pass that. take that off the table. then come back to this other to end the drama. >> stephanie: what it does, it brings the senate past middle class tax cuts which president obama said he will sign immediately to the house. >> what we could do, if we get the 218 signatures, we'll need some help from what i would c
. >> stephanie: discharge petition, you heard nancy pelosi talking about this. to vote on the middle class tax cuts in the house. he joins us now. good morning representative. >> good morning. thank you for having me. >> stephanie: was it yesterday you filed it? >> we filed it at noon yesterday. we've got over 150 folks signed on. >> stephanie: that's awesome. so just talk to us about what you think is going to happen and on what timeframe. >> well what it is...
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lou: not according to nancy pelosi. i don't know if you saw. we reported up the p. >> i didn't. lou: the minority leader actually said, you cann cut your way to deficit reduction. i mean, this isthe kind of mentality that speaker boehner must confront and deal with. one would think that wold be a winner for him, but apparently not. >> i'm saying i am puzzled by the fact that he does not emphasize that much more andd3 really say, i'm not oing to talk but taxes. taxes is not on the table until the president comes forward with the plan on entitlements. lou: you are a formidable gotiator in your own right, experience, and i just want to ask you. why would anyone who is the leader of the republican party, frankly in a position, not insist uponealing with te president o has the superior power, the superior position and advantage,ot insist that any negotiation be at a specific table with specific parameters and in the -- end this nonsen that is at the periphery in permeate -- permeating th media >> that's right. well, the president, and this is one of the reasons why the president may
lou: not according to nancy pelosi. i don't know if you saw. we reported up the p. >> i didn't. lou: the minority leader actually said, you cann cut your way to deficit reduction. i mean, this isthe kind of mentality that speaker boehner must confront and deal with. one would think that wold be a winner for him, but apparently not. >> i'm saying i am puzzled by the fact that he does not emphasize that much more andd3 really say, i'm not oing to talk but taxes. taxes is not on the...
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the democrats like nancy pelosi, susan, saying that, you know, republicans don't get it. they are fiddling while rome burns. >> here's the problem with the polls you mentioned. that poll is interesting and instructive, but the poll that republicans are going to pay attention to is not the one you cited. the one poll -- the poll the republicans pay attention to is the one that blames them. actually, there's several that pin it on republicans saying the public thinks that boehner's doing the worst job. if they are paying attention to that lou, that could have more influence on the outcome. lou: i accept everything but the reading of their minds and ask you -- >> i can actually read their minds. lou: as always, i bow to superpowers, but the fact is i don't understand how the republicans over the course of this entire episode, and i will call it that, an incident, i guess, on the first of january, but why they have not developedded a message and a strategy and a response because they are an immensely powerful position. >> lou, you just backed up my whole argument because they
the democrats like nancy pelosi, susan, saying that, you know, republicans don't get it. they are fiddling while rome burns. >> here's the problem with the polls you mentioned. that poll is interesting and instructive, but the poll that republicans are going to pay attention to is not the one you cited. the one poll -- the poll the republicans pay attention to is the one that blames them. actually, there's several that pin it on republicans saying the public thinks that boehner's doing...
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we are reaching a dangerous, dangerous to pinpoint in this country, and we have nancy pelosi, the minority leader saying that you cannot cut your way to deficit reduction. mind-boggling. >> it is mind-boggling. after the second world war we cut our government spending by 60 percent. the economy boomed. we cut ourselves all the way into a big srplus. israel was in a catastrophic crisis in the mid 80's. it cut its way drastically to a surplus. lou: this country has long history. >> a new zealand. lou: this country, if we can be parochl allotted for a moment, we can learn from our own experience. it is pretty clear that when we talk about, as this administration has, returnng to a clintonnera tax rates, it would be a wonderful boon if we were to be able to also return to the balanced budgets of the clinton years, if we could return to the trillion dollar peace dividend that the bush years left on the doorstep of the clinton years. but none of that is ever examined. also, we also are the beneficiaries of a massive technology bubble and the markets. >> plants and reduced the capital gains tax b
we are reaching a dangerous, dangerous to pinpoint in this country, and we have nancy pelosi, the minority leader saying that you cannot cut your way to deficit reduction. mind-boggling. >> it is mind-boggling. after the second world war we cut our government spending by 60 percent. the economy boomed. we cut ourselves all the way into a big srplus. israel was in a catastrophic crisis in the mid 80's. it cut its way drastically to a surplus. lou: this country has long history. >> a...
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house minority leader nancy pelosi says democrats will knot discuss or talk social security. house speaker john boehner is still resistant to any tax rate increase. there are questions if we start to get closer to the new year when nearly every federal income tax rate is supposed to increase, would republicans still put a bill on the floor that would give the president what he wants on tax rates, just allow taxes to increase for families earning more than $250,000 a year? to that the speaker was noncommittal. >> the law of the land today is that everyone's income taxes are going to go up on january the 1st. i have made it clear that i think that is unacceptable. but, until we get this issue resolved that risk remains. >> in case of emergency the house should break the glass. the, house speaker ought to allow the republicans to vote on extending tax cuts for 98% of the american people. that would deal with a chunk of the so scald -- called fiscal cliff. >> short while ago house minority leader nancy pelosi says she hoped to get this done by christmas. that is looking closer an
house minority leader nancy pelosi says democrats will knot discuss or talk social security. house speaker john boehner is still resistant to any tax rate increase. there are questions if we start to get closer to the new year when nearly every federal income tax rate is supposed to increase, would republicans still put a bill on the floor that would give the president what he wants on tax rates, just allow taxes to increase for families earning more than $250,000 a year? to that the speaker...
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jon: those remarks just into our fox newsroom from house minority leader nancy pelosi moments ago saying republicans are avoiding the conversation on the fiscal cliff. meantime we're awaiting new reaction from white house press secretary jay carney. there is a live look at the podium in the west wing. you can see it is empty right now. jay carney should be stepping up to the microphone momentarily and we expect the topic a is going to be the fiscal cliff and the white house position on it. let's talk about it with angela mcglowan, fox news political analyst. you have been in washington. >> for a very long time. jon: i'm not going to say that. you're way too young to have been there a long time but you know how these things work. >> yes. jon: is this all political posturing? is there stuff really going on behind the scenes that we don't know about or hear about? >> this is political theater at its best. anytime both sides offer a plan that's when the negotiating process starts. the optimist here. i do believe we will come to a deal, jon. i think you will see a lot more political posturing
jon: those remarks just into our fox newsroom from house minority leader nancy pelosi moments ago saying republicans are avoiding the conversation on the fiscal cliff. meantime we're awaiting new reaction from white house press secretary jay carney. there is a live look at the podium in the west wing. you can see it is empty right now. jay carney should be stepping up to the microphone momentarily and we expect the topic a is going to be the fiscal cliff and the white house position on it....
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. >> nancy pelosi. >> republicans lost the house majority in 2006 when they promised to cut spending and then increase it. bret bozell of for america inc. says the republicans face the same fate if after promising all year to hold the line or cut taxes they raise more. >> it's not a threat. it's a reality. if you bucked -- the republicans lost the house when they walked away from fiscal responsibility. they regained it when they recommitted themselves to the fiscal responsibility. if they abandon it yet again, it's a guarantee that the conservatives aren't going along with this. >> g.o.p. leaders reacted it will to the backlash. boehner raised $100 million for the house republican candidates this year. his proposal to increase tax revenues on the four rebel conservatives is backed by the house majority leader eric cantor with kevin mccarthy and budget committee chairman paul ryan. now they're under fire, too. >> in a perverse way, the purging was good. because it provided clairryty with what we thought was true that the leadership didn't hold the conservative principles in first plac
. >> nancy pelosi. >> republicans lost the house majority in 2006 when they promised to cut spending and then increase it. bret bozell of for america inc. says the republicans face the same fate if after promising all year to hold the line or cut taxes they raise more. >> it's not a threat. it's a reality. if you bucked -- the republicans lost the house when they walked away from fiscal responsibility. they regained it when they recommitted themselves to the fiscal...
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nancy pelosi guess on an assault in an op-ed today about raising the age on medicare. we are not doing that. off the table. you see jay rockefeller, whenly waxnan the house saying do not touch medicaid, by the way is bankrupting the states and squeezing education money and school money. so they have taken those off the table, which leads maybe cost of living adjustment on medicare and social security. and not much else. so, i think that is where we are now. >> jeff, from your reporting where do you get a sense of where we're headed in this. >> troubling sign of the message of closed door meeting where speaker boehner said the members should leave their christmas decorations up. and that they should plan to stay in. i think that one channel for speaker boehner here, he is beginning to face some rumblings of trouble on the right. so far, i think they have been able to do a good job holding everyone together on this. some are members of the house republican caucus that were outspoken after this closed door meeting, telling reporters that speaker boehner, you know is respo
nancy pelosi guess on an assault in an op-ed today about raising the age on medicare. we are not doing that. off the table. you see jay rockefeller, whenly waxnan the house saying do not touch medicaid, by the way is bankrupting the states and squeezing education money and school money. so they have taken those off the table, which leads maybe cost of living adjustment on medicare and social security. and not much else. so, i think that is where we are now. >> jeff, from your reporting...
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one is is about the cuts already embedded in law which is evidently what nancy pelosi was talking about and they are absolutely embedded in law and there is no question about them. >> the problem with that is that congress has done nothing to put legislation in place to cut spending to meet those caps. and that's one of the reasons that we're now in the fiscal cliff. >> baseline budgeting has been used by both parties since 1974. allows republicans to exaggerate claims of frugality. allows democrats to expand the growth of government. either way accounting trick that no family tried to balance its checkbook could ever get away with. bret? >> bret: british bank sbc has agreed to pay money to settle a money laundering case. the justice department in the u.s. says the bank cleaned funds for narcotics traffickers in mexico and allowed illegal transactions with iran, cuba, and other nations. michigan becomes a right-to-work state with some fireworks outside the state capitol. we'll talk about what's going on with the fox all-stars when we come back. begin. tomato, obviously. haha. there's mo
one is is about the cuts already embedded in law which is evidently what nancy pelosi was talking about and they are absolutely embedded in law and there is no question about them. >> the problem with that is that congress has done nothing to put legislation in place to cut spending to meet those caps. and that's one of the reasons that we're now in the fiscal cliff. >> baseline budgeting has been used by both parties since 1974. allows republicans to exaggerate claims of frugality....
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democrats counter what we heard from nancy pelosi. democrats agreed to over a trillion dollars in cuts as part of the budget control act in 2011. indeed hear is the document. letter from cbo to spiker boehner laying out $915 billion in cuts between 2012 and to 21. the brookings institution it is a fact, she says pelosi was right. listen up. >> there are two different conversation going on about these numbers. one is about the cuts that are already embedded in law which is evidently what nancy pelosi was talking about and they are absolutely embedded in law and there is no question about them. >> reporter: but not so fast. keep in mind that these numbers were derived from baseline budgeting that is a washington gimmick that no family balancing its checkbook could ever get away with. baseline budgeting assumes that spending will rise each year and based outlays on accepted rise. >> over the past couple of years especially as part of the debt limit negotiations they pretended to cut spending using the washington definition, meaning spend
democrats counter what we heard from nancy pelosi. democrats agreed to over a trillion dollars in cuts as part of the budget control act in 2011. indeed hear is the document. letter from cbo to spiker boehner laying out $915 billion in cuts between 2012 and to 21. the brookings institution it is a fact, she says pelosi was right. listen up. >> there are two different conversation going on about these numbers. one is about the cuts that are already embedded in law which is evidently what...
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pelosi was speak of the house. i don't think that president obama or the republicans want us to go over the fiscal cliff. >> jamie: angela, when i have you guys on, i want to learn a little something myself. we have a lot of new members that are going to be seated after the first of the year. so, if they come up with some partial solution, let's say, what's the impact, angela, of us having new members of congress seating into this di decision making process. is it hurtful or beneficial? >> it's always beneficial, i always think that new minds are great to come to the table to give new ideas. what we have have to stop down is putting a bandaid on it and kicking it down the road. we need true me form or we'll be talking about this a year from now. >> jamie: doug, a prediction, going over? >> i don't think so. but you bring up a good point member about the 90 house members who are going to leave and more political incentive to do it now, because with new members, they're going to have to go through the debate again. >
pelosi was speak of the house. i don't think that president obama or the republicans want us to go over the fiscal cliff. >> jamie: angela, when i have you guys on, i want to learn a little something myself. we have a lot of new members that are going to be seated after the first of the year. so, if they come up with some partial solution, let's say, what's the impact, angela, of us having new members of congress seating into this di decision making process. is it hurtful or beneficial?...
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an interesting development from nancy pelosi. who knows whether or not she is central to the debate going on right now. bill: there will be another briefing on benghazi. the families of the four americans killed in that attack almost three months ago say they are still in the dark about what happened to their loved ones. the father of tyrone woods one of the former navy seals saying he learned more from witness accounts about how his son died than he did from the white house. new hampshire senator kelly ayotte member of the house services committee and the budget committee. welcome back to "america's newsroom." >> good morning, bill. bill: do the families have any more answers now about how these four died? >> unfortunately, no. we had four brave americans that were murdered. my heart goes out to those families. they deserve answers. we still don't know why that wasn't more secure given two prior attacks on the consulate, given the security requests, given that the british had left, the red cross had left. it should have been sec
an interesting development from nancy pelosi. who knows whether or not she is central to the debate going on right now. bill: there will be another briefing on benghazi. the families of the four americans killed in that attack almost three months ago say they are still in the dark about what happened to their loved ones. the father of tyrone woods one of the former navy seals saying he learned more from witness accounts about how his son died than he did from the white house. new hampshire...
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the former speaker of the house, the house minority leader, nancy pelosi, expressed concerns about timing. over at the white house early today, it got personal between jay carney and speaker john boehner, carney making reference to a situation almost 20 years old. take a also listen to this. >> let me say while i personally am fond of john boehner, his record of predicting what would happen to certain economic policies were instituted is abysmal. after 1993, after the budget plan was passed we saw record increase and vast. a wealth created. >> this was earlier. the important thing, a face-to-face meeting between the president and speaker. they had a phone call tuesday evening which was less than cordial. perhaps a face-to-face meeting will move the ball forward. >> gretchen: if only they were on the golf course. that solves everything. mike emanuel, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> let's talk about the john mcafee saga wanted for questioning in his neighbor's death. he tells abc news he played the crazy card to save himself. here's the crazy back story. a neighbor in the nation of be
the former speaker of the house, the house minority leader, nancy pelosi, expressed concerns about timing. over at the white house early today, it got personal between jay carney and speaker john boehner, carney making reference to a situation almost 20 years old. take a also listen to this. >> let me say while i personally am fond of john boehner, his record of predicting what would happen to certain economic policies were instituted is abysmal. after 1993, after the budget plan was...
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>> remember, ali, nancy pelosi whos with the house speaker, she said at the time you have to pass the bill to find out what's in it. now unfortunately we're finding out all of these surprises. all these things were right there in the bill. democrats passed it without a single republican vote. what is interesting now all of these things are coming to light and real horrors of obamacare is kicking in in terms of taxes you laid out. that $63 feel that will hit everybody. the 3.8% surtax on capital gains and other investments on higher earners. medical devries tax, all these things are starting to kick in. what you're seeing in liberal democrats in the senate like john kerry, patty murray, chuck schumer, because these taxes will hit some of their biggest constituencies an donors now they're starting to say well, we might want to look at repealing this or that part of obamacare because we didn't realize it would be so bad. alisyn: we heard that from al franken in minnesota about the medical device act. do democrats bear some responsibility in not better forecasting some of these prices? >>
>> remember, ali, nancy pelosi whos with the house speaker, she said at the time you have to pass the bill to find out what's in it. now unfortunately we're finding out all of these surprises. all these things were right there in the bill. democrats passed it without a single republican vote. what is interesting now all of these things are coming to light and real horrors of obamacare is kicking in in terms of taxes you laid out. that $63 feel that will hit everybody. the 3.8% surtax on...
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nancy pelosi got passed in the house. now this group is going to the epa in saying that you just do it, crack down on these admissions yourself. the supreme court has said that you have this power. go for it. the eta said no, for now. reporter: the epa probably wishes that the group had not said so out loud. it is probably not helpful to have outside. the original proposals that the epa talked about earlier in the president's first term related to really tough standards that would essentially make it an economic impossibility to use coal, which still is the preponderance of america's electrical generation power. epa backed off of that. the epa is going to crack down very hard in months to come with the president having been reelected. environmentalists like that because it is a means to a cap-and-trade or means to a carbon cap. without having to go through congress were without having to get ratification of the u.n. treaty. megyn: it is another system. it looks kind of like cap-and-trade from what i'm reading. where have
nancy pelosi got passed in the house. now this group is going to the epa in saying that you just do it, crack down on these admissions yourself. the supreme court has said that you have this power. go for it. the eta said no, for now. reporter: the epa probably wishes that the group had not said so out loud. it is probably not helpful to have outside. the original proposals that the epa talked about earlier in the president's first term related to really tough standards that would essentially...
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here is more from nancy pelosi making her case. >> i consider what the republicans agree with the tax cut, but that will be a victory for the american people, and that is why we are here. i would hope that would break the fall of the fiscal cliff, which is becoming more of a slope. but we really do need to put down a down payment. reporter: a lot of maneuvering going on. steny hoyer predicted there would be movement and private in the coming days with lawmakers leaving for the weekend. perhaps that peace and quiet will be helpful. jenna: thank you so much. jenna: superstorm sandy swept away their homes, and now they are demanding action to protect against this kind of damage in the future. we will tell you about that. and an american astronaut gets ready to spend a year in outer space [ loud party sounds ] hi, i'm ensure clear... clear, huh? i'm not juice or fancy water. i've gotine grams of protein. that's three times more than me! [ female announcer ] ensure clear. nine grams protein. zero fat. in blueberry/pomegranate and peach. >> today i am pledging to cut the deficit by half of
here is more from nancy pelosi making her case. >> i consider what the republicans agree with the tax cut, but that will be a victory for the american people, and that is why we are here. i would hope that would break the fall of the fiscal cliff, which is becoming more of a slope. but we really do need to put down a down payment. reporter: a lot of maneuvering going on. steny hoyer predicted there would be movement and private in the coming days with lawmakers leaving for the weekend....
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alisyn: i mean, you know, nancy pelosi's taken a lot of heat for that famous saying, you have to pass the bill to figure out what's in the bill. but now that seems haunting, because the fact that even senators now are saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down, we want some of these things repealed. >> 17 democrats in the senate including senator-elect elizabeth warren from massachusetts. 17 democrats in the senate with three weeks to go before this tax is imposed suddenly realize this is going to cost a lot of money, it's going to hurt my voter, it's going to hurt the device industry. please delay it. all of a sudden. alisyn: maybe they should have read it. >> but it was very long. alisyn: it was long. [laughter] you've got that right. stu varney, thanks so much for parsing all of this. >>> meanwhile, a violent political power struggle on the streets of one major u.s. ally, but as both sides protest in egypt, there's also a push to legitimize some hard-line islamist groups. so in three minutes we'll check in for a live report from the heart of the crisis. >>> and as police prepare for some
alisyn: i mean, you know, nancy pelosi's taken a lot of heat for that famous saying, you have to pass the bill to figure out what's in the bill. but now that seems haunting, because the fact that even senators now are saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down, we want some of these things repealed. >> 17 democrats in the senate including senator-elect elizabeth warren from massachusetts. 17 democrats in the senate with three weeks to go before this tax is imposed suddenly realize this is going...
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interesting all the other leaders, nancy pelosi, harry reid, mitch mcconnell, they're all out. in the end it will be the president and the leader of house republicans speaker boehner and they will have it make a deal both sides can live with. martha: for all intents and purposes john boehner continues to say that he will not raise taxes on that top 2%. that he wants that revenue to come in the form of changing deductions and loopholes. the president says exactly the opposite. so one side is going to have to give. any bet which side it is likely it be? >> on that issue i think the republicans are going to have to give. it was a key issue in the election. and remember, it's unsustainable i think politically for boehner, forget the economics of this. i know people say that should be the only issue here. let's talk about the politics of it. it is unsustainable for boehner and the republicans to be in a position where they are blocking a tax cut for 98% of the americans because they want it protect tax rates of the top 2%. that may be right or wrong on its merits but politically see
interesting all the other leaders, nancy pelosi, harry reid, mitch mcconnell, they're all out. in the end it will be the president and the leader of house republicans speaker boehner and they will have it make a deal both sides can live with. martha: for all intents and purposes john boehner continues to say that he will not raise taxes on that top 2%. that he wants that revenue to come in the form of changing deductions and loopholes. the president says exactly the opposite. so one side is...
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. >> reporter: nancy pelosi, the democratic leader in the house talked to reporters a few moments ago she noted the clock is really ticking. if you want to get a deal it needs to be hammered out in the next day or some there is great anxiety with the christmas holiday coming up. with the procedural things you need to do to get legislation done. so the pressure is really on. pelosi talked a little bit what it was like when she was speaker and she had a deal with war funding with many is of her members. check this out. >> it's tough. but you have to do it. so is the point you don't want to put your members on spot figure it out. we did. figure it out. and than, then go forward and continue to debate the issue but don't have our men and women in uniform wondering if they're going to be, if they're going to be high and dry because we couldn't have a policy debate that would later ensue, that we couldn't have it right there in a way that would end the war. >> pelosi was asked about the markets not reacting so far to congress and the white house not being able to work this out and she's mak
. >> reporter: nancy pelosi, the democratic leader in the house talked to reporters a few moments ago she noted the clock is really ticking. if you want to get a deal it needs to be hammered out in the next day or some there is great anxiety with the christmas holiday coming up. with the procedural things you need to do to get legislation done. so the pressure is really on. pelosi talked a little bit what it was like when she was speaker and she had a deal with war funding with many is of...
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put this up for a vote: listen to nancy pelosi. we are not here to pass the middle income tax cut why are we here to not deat a time the middle income tax cut. could it be that the republicans are holding the middle income tax cuts as they have all along hostage to tax cuts for the wealthy? >> can i give another analogy? do you mind? it's just crazy, the former speaker of the houses the republicans are holding the middle class hostage. the two sides that come to the bargaining table may want to come to spending cuts on tax increases. think of it you are selling a house. you want to sell your house, the buyer comes in and you say i think my house is worth 400,000 bucks but the other side comes in and says i'm starting at zero. that's what the democrats brought. that's what the president brought to the table. he he said $1.6 trillion in tax increases and no spending cuts. >> that's a great point. you know why? because what the republicans did was that paperwork. they got all their ducks in a row. got cantor's tax revenue. paul ryan $
put this up for a vote: listen to nancy pelosi. we are not here to pass the middle income tax cut why are we here to not deat a time the middle income tax cut. could it be that the republicans are holding the middle income tax cuts as they have all along hostage to tax cuts for the wealthy? >> can i give another analogy? do you mind? it's just crazy, the former speaker of the houses the republicans are holding the middle class hostage. the two sides that come to the bargaining table may...
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. >> and nancy pelosi predicted justice s would discard prop 8 in the dust bin of history. >> joining us now is abc 7 news legal analyst dean johnson. you've describe described this as a good day for california but not the best day. >> probably the best thing would have been if the court denied hearing prop 8. that would have meant would it have been the law within 35 days. >> how is this going to play out? when should we expect a decision? >> we don't know when cases will be argued. between february and april.uuÑ but each will have a slot. ma means we'll probably looking at a june, or july decision. >> that is soon, a fairly fast track you talked about justice kennedy being the swing vote in this. >> the case that decides both of these is lawrence versus texas that. was a case in which he was the swing vote. >> and you anticipate the same? >> the result will apply in both of the case autos thank you. >> moving on now, businesses getting ready to arm themselves with more high tech surveillance cameras after seeing how security cameras broke open a massive fencing ring. how police bus
. >> and nancy pelosi predicted justice s would discard prop 8 in the dust bin of history. >> joining us now is abc 7 news legal analyst dean johnson. you've describe described this as a good day for california but not the best day. >> probably the best thing would have been if the court denied hearing prop 8. that would have meant would it have been the law within 35 days. >> how is this going to play out? when should we expect a decision? >> we don't know when...
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you don't see mitch mcconnell or nancy pelosi. you see john boehner, the speaker of the house, the republican leader, and the president. >> we're going to have all the latest of all the week's politics, sunday on "this week." james carville, and mary matalin and paul krugman join george will on our powerhouse roundtable. elizabeth? >>> now, to the latest scare for john mcafee, who is wanted for questioning in a murder in belize. he collapsed at the detention center where he was being held. he was rushed to the hospital. at first, they thought he might have suffered a heart attack. he's back in detention. and matt gutman is in guatemala city with the latest twist in this bizarre case. good morning, matt. >> reporter: good morning, elizabeth. i spoke to john mcafee last night. he said his attorneys are working on five separate actions that could delay his deportation to belize, at least by a couple of days and free him from this detention center. and it follows what was arguably the most bizarre day in his month-long run from the la
you don't see mitch mcconnell or nancy pelosi. you see john boehner, the speaker of the house, the republican leader, and the president. >> we're going to have all the latest of all the week's politics, sunday on "this week." james carville, and mary matalin and paul krugman join george will on our powerhouse roundtable. elizabeth? >>> now, to the latest scare for john mcafee, who is wanted for questioning in a murder in belize. he collapsed at the detention center...
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. >> reporter: his democratic counter-part, nancy pelosi, blamed boehner for the stalemate. >> what they offered in return nas an empty letter, lacking in the fics. 3 dreporter: such is the state of negotiations 23 days before nhe deadline, when federal era le tax rates will revert to higher, clinton-era levels, a 2% ayroll tax cut will expire, and long-term unemployment benefits of dry up for over two million americans who have been out of work for six months or more. on friday, boehner did not rule hikea compromise on a tax hike for top earners, somewhere between today's 35% rate and the clinton-era's 39.6%. >> there are a lot of things ssat are possible to put the revenue the president seeks on the table. >> reporter: even if the two sides are making more progress behind the scenes, no one mit its them to admit it until of last minute. ederoffice of management and budget has asked all federal agencies to come up with a detailed list of possible cuts if there's no deal, maurice. >> dubois: nancy, thank you. t how is all this affecting the economy? the one sign we did see yesterday show
. >> reporter: his democratic counter-part, nancy pelosi, blamed boehner for the stalemate. >> what they offered in return nas an empty letter, lacking in the fics. 3 dreporter: such is the state of negotiations 23 days before nhe deadline, when federal era le tax rates will revert to higher, clinton-era levels, a 2% ayroll tax cut will expire, and long-term unemployment benefits of dry up for over two million americans who have been out of work for six months or more. on friday,...